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	Comments on: CINE-DEBATE: PLASTIC BAG vs. THE MAJESTIC PLASTIC BAG, A Blatant Rip-Off?	</title>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Come on, start from ourselves to get used to reduce the use of plastic bags and bring cloth bags for shopping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, start from ourselves to get used to reduce the use of plastic bags and bring cloth bags for shopping.</p>
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		By: Dtvluke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dtvluke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I take it neither the originator (term used loosely and advisedly) nor the Ad Agency have seen American Beauty? Please - the original idea was the classic art video guy who shoots the mundane and elevates it by forcing you to engage with the everyday. I think it was in Ecclesiates - &quot;There&#039;s nothing new under the sun&quot;. Except appropriation - which is Post Modern speak for stealing sh!t LOL!

Luke Caldwell
dpf, Sydney/LA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it neither the originator (term used loosely and advisedly) nor the Ad Agency have seen American Beauty? Please &#8211; the original idea was the classic art video guy who shoots the mundane and elevates it by forcing you to engage with the everyday. I think it was in Ecclesiates &#8211; &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing new under the sun&#8221;. Except appropriation &#8211; which is Post Modern speak for stealing sh!t LOL!</p>
<p>Luke Caldwell<br />
dpf, Sydney/LA</p>
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		By: Lifter035		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lifter035]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here;s the link of movie that was done by my friend in Croatia in 2007
Enjoy

http://www.dcenvironmentalfilmfest.org/films/show/331]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here;s the link of movie that was done by my friend in Croatia in 2007<br />
Enjoy</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dcenvironmentalfilmfest.org/films/show/331" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dcenvironmentalfilmfest.org/films/show/331</a></p>
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		By: alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[incontrovertible thievery. shame on the copycat filmmaker and even greater shame on sundance for promoting this advertisement as a film.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>incontrovertible thievery. shame on the copycat filmmaker and even greater shame on sundance for promoting this advertisement as a film.</p>
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		By: Farzad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Farzad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been teaching TV &amp; Cinema for 15 years at college level, and this event just disgusts me. 
Try doing this with Disney ... I mean, try creating a mouse and name it ... say Milky Mouse ... and see how it goes! Disney will sue you out of your noise and they should. It&#039;s theft, copyright violation, and utterly unethical. 
This is how you do NOT make a film and how you do NOT run a festival. 
Sundance completely destroyed its reputation with this. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been teaching TV &#038; Cinema for 15 years at college level, and this event just disgusts me.<br />
Try doing this with Disney &#8230; I mean, try creating a mouse and name it &#8230; say Milky Mouse &#8230; and see how it goes! Disney will sue you out of your noise and they should. It&#8217;s theft, copyright violation, and utterly unethical.<br />
This is how you do NOT make a film and how you do NOT run a festival.<br />
Sundance completely destroyed its reputation with this. </p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, as others have hit upon, submitting this copycat short to Sundance is not about &quot;a good cause&quot;. The &quot;good cause&quot; was Heal the Bay. Submitting to Sundance is about advancing one&#039;s career in film. The &quot;filmmakers&quot; are trying to advance their careers by deliberately copying another short which was made 6 months before this one. (Which is different than trying to say everything is a copy of something that was done 60 years ago). Not only were the scenes directly copied, even the use of a famous narration was  copied. The only thing they couldn&#039;t get, because they&#039;re too lazy, was an original score.

If this really was about &quot;saving the planet&quot; as Heal the Bay is trying to say it is, you would think they would have asked to see if they could attach Plastic Bag with their cause. 

Where there&#039;s smoke....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, as others have hit upon, submitting this copycat short to Sundance is not about &#8220;a good cause&#8221;. The &#8220;good cause&#8221; was Heal the Bay. Submitting to Sundance is about advancing one&#8217;s career in film. The &#8220;filmmakers&#8221; are trying to advance their careers by deliberately copying another short which was made 6 months before this one. (Which is different than trying to say everything is a copy of something that was done 60 years ago). Not only were the scenes directly copied, even the use of a famous narration was  copied. The only thing they couldn&#8217;t get, because they&#8217;re too lazy, was an original score.</p>
<p>If this really was about &#8220;saving the planet&#8221; as Heal the Bay is trying to say it is, you would think they would have asked to see if they could attach Plastic Bag with their cause. </p>
<p>Where there&#8217;s smoke&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Nick B		</title>
		<link>https://www.hammertonail.com/editorial/plastic-bag-vs-the-majestic-plastic-bag-a-blatant-rip-off/#comment-13539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This would be a major controversy, without a doubt, if &quot;Plastic Bag&quot; were a full-length feature and &quot;The Majestic Plastic Bag&quot; were a full-length mockumentary.  It&#039;s a blatant travesty, regardless.  I don&#039;t find &quot;The Majestic Plastic Bag&quot; funny at all, so it loses its value as a send-up or &quot;mockumentary&quot; to me.  If there&#039;s no entertainment value resulting from the ironic contrast between the knockoff and the original (as should be the case with a true send-up), then &quot;Majestic&quot; is just an underhanded, supercilious fraud of a film.

By contrast, and perhaps truly ironically, the fact that Sundance programmed &quot;Majestic&quot; underscores the value of the original film: the strength of concept of &quot;Plastic Bag&quot; shines through, even in the degraded form of a pale imitation.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a major controversy, without a doubt, if &#8220;Plastic Bag&#8221; were a full-length feature and &#8220;The Majestic Plastic Bag&#8221; were a full-length mockumentary.  It&#8217;s a blatant travesty, regardless.  I don&#8217;t find &#8220;The Majestic Plastic Bag&#8221; funny at all, so it loses its value as a send-up or &#8220;mockumentary&#8221; to me.  If there&#8217;s no entertainment value resulting from the ironic contrast between the knockoff and the original (as should be the case with a true send-up), then &#8220;Majestic&#8221; is just an underhanded, supercilious fraud of a film.</p>
<p>By contrast, and perhaps truly ironically, the fact that Sundance programmed &#8220;Majestic&#8221; underscores the value of the original film: the strength of concept of &#8220;Plastic Bag&#8221; shines through, even in the degraded form of a pale imitation.  </p>
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		By: Filmjerk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Filmjerk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those filmes - mendes in particular had flying plastic bag.  It was not a character with a life and a voice.  This owes more to red ballon then to American Beauty.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those filmes &#8211; mendes in particular had flying plastic bag.  It was not a character with a life and a voice.  This owes more to red ballon then to American Beauty.  </p>
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		By: nightwriter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightwriter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was bad enough when &quot;the Majestic Plastic Bag&quot; was released...a flat, heavy handed copy of Bahrani&#039;s delightful short. But at least initially it appeared that its only purpose was as a fundraising vehicle. But &quot;now for this pitiful imitation to be used to advance the Director&#039;s career and heighten his profile? An entirely different conversation...That this should be shown at Sundance is a disgrace...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was bad enough when &#8220;the Majestic Plastic Bag&#8221; was released&#8230;a flat, heavy handed copy of Bahrani&#8217;s delightful short. But at least initially it appeared that its only purpose was as a fundraising vehicle. But &#8220;now for this pitiful imitation to be used to advance the Director&#8217;s career and heighten his profile? An entirely different conversation&#8230;That this should be shown at Sundance is a disgrace&#8230;</p>
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		By: Alex_B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one creates in a vacuum -- all ideas build on others.  So I don&#039;t fault agencies or independents for not doing wholly original creative work, though it&#039;s clear this is a case that does show a lot of, ahem, borrowing.

It is pretty silly of Sundance to program the second film, both because it&#039;s already been so widely released, and because it&#039;s the furthest thing from an independent work.  To present it as such just makes a joke of the festival.  And here I thought last years &quot;revolution&quot; branding of the festival was silly ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one creates in a vacuum &#8212; all ideas build on others.  So I don&#8217;t fault agencies or independents for not doing wholly original creative work, though it&#8217;s clear this is a case that does show a lot of, ahem, borrowing.</p>
<p>It is pretty silly of Sundance to program the second film, both because it&#8217;s already been so widely released, and because it&#8217;s the furthest thing from an independent work.  To present it as such just makes a joke of the festival.  And here I thought last years &#8220;revolution&#8221; branding of the festival was silly &#8230;</p>
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